ESP32 {S2, S3} CDC and HID stall when using simultaneously #10307

ChrGri · 2024-09-07T07:45:40Z

Board

ESP32 S3 dev and S2 mini

Device Description

Hardware Configuration

USB-OTG port used

Version

latest master (checkout manually)

IDE Name

PlatformIO

Operating System

Win 11

Flash frequency

PSRAM enabled

yes

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Description

This issue was found during investigation of this ticket. I've opened this ticket, to clean up the issue tracking.

The issue is, that when sending signals over CDC (serial data) and HID (game controller output) at the same time, at least one of the channels will stall after a while and therefore isn't sending data to the PC anymore.

The steps to reproduce this issue:

take ESP32 S2 mini or ESP32 S3 (other boards might behave similar)
upload the software with simultaneous CDC and HID output from here
https://github.com/ChrGri/DIY-Sim-Racing-FFB-Pedal/tree/develop/Validation/Joystick_Serial_test
restart the ESP
windows game controller output app to check the change in HID output
open a serial monitor
the ESPs output will stall now after a while, if not, please reduce the delay
https://github.com/ChrGri/DIY-Sim-Racing-FFB-Pedal/blob/e2798eca295c65b02d2448eeabd65c69a27d08bd/Validation/Joystick_Serial_test/src/Joystick_Serial_test.ino#L54

The expected behaviour is that CDC and HID output streams are stable and don't collapse.

Sketch

See link above.

Debug Message

Other Steps to Reproduce

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I have checked existing issues, online documentation and the Troubleshooting Guide

I confirm I have checked existing issues, online documentation and Troubleshooting guide.

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Jason2866 · 2024-09-07T16:12:47Z

Your Platformio setup is mixing versions. Bad idea. If you want to use core 3.0.4 with Platformio you should consider using pioarduino. https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32

ChrGri · 2024-09-07T19:02:55Z

Ideally I would want to use core version 2.x due to library compatibility

Jason2866 · 2024-09-07T19:14:09Z

Development is done with actual core. So if anything is not working with core 2.0.x as wanted/expected it will not be changed/fixed in core 2.0.x.

ChrGri · 2024-09-07T20:02:37Z

Can you tell me where the versions are mixed?

I've checked the platformio file and it only references espressif32, see
https://github.com/ChrGri/DIY-Sim-Racing-FFB-Pedal/blob/a62915e6e5cbf0ae2353c9a2a32ef5b7ad33ea9d/Validation/Joystick_Serial_test/platformio.ini#L17

Jason2866 · 2024-09-07T20:45:05Z

https://github.com/ChrGri/DIY-Sim-Racing-FFB-Pedal/blob/develop/ESP32_master/platformio.ini

ChrGri · 2024-09-08T01:12:03Z

https://github.com/ChrGri/DIY-Sim-Racing-FFB-Pedal/blob/develop/ESP32_master/platformio.ini

But that's a completely different project!?
So why is CDC + HID stalling with this?
https://github.com/ChrGri/DIY-Sim-Racing-FFB-Pedal/tree/develop/Validation/Joystick_Serial_test

Jason2866 · 2024-09-09T09:55:32Z

So you are using core 2.0.x. Not core 3.0.4 as you wrote in the issue template.
For core 2.0.x is no development and bug fixing done anymore.

ChrGri · 2024-09-09T10:32:41Z

So you are using core 2.0.x. Not core 3.0.4 as you wrote in the issue template. For core 2.0.x is no development and bug fixing done anymore.

No. The issue happens on core 3 too. Please try the toy example from the top.

SuGlider · 2024-09-10T20:25:58Z

We have found a couple problems with the TinyUSB version/commit used within the ESP32 Arduino Core.
There are problems with CDC.

It will take some time to fix. This issue will be kept in the list to be tested.

SuGlider · 2024-09-10T20:39:31Z

@ChrGri - Could you please test it using Arduino 3.0.0-RC1 version? This uses the last stable TinyUSB version that I have found.

ChrGri · 2024-09-11T04:37:27Z

@ChrGri - Could you please test it using Arduino 3.0.0-RC1 version? This uses the last stable TinyUSB version that I have found.

@SuGlider 3.1.0-RC1?

ChrGri · 2024-09-27T20:46:58Z

@ChrGri - Could you please test it using Arduino 3.0.0-RC1 version? This uses the last stable TinyUSB version that I have found.

Tried it, but it won't even compile

What am I doing wrong?

TD-er · 2024-09-28T07:55:37Z

Did you remove the packages, platforms and cache folder from your .platformio directory?
Just to make sure you're not dealing with older files being present when changing platform definitions.

Edit:
Oh you're building for Arduino 3.0.x
Maybe you should try pioarduino as platformio has no support for the latest Arduino 3.0.x/ESP-IDF5.x

ChrGri · 2024-09-28T09:48:20Z

Did you remove the packages, platforms and cache folder from your .platformio directory? Just to make sure you're not dealing with older files being present when changing platform definitions.

Edit: Oh you're building for Arduino 3.0.x Maybe you should try pioarduino as platformio has no support for the latest Arduino 3.0.x/ESP-IDF5.x

Thank you, I tried with
platform = https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32/releases/download/51.03.05/platform-espressif32.zip and
https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32/releases/download/53.03.10-rc1/platform-espressif32.zip. The HID + CDC output stall similarly.

Jason2866 · 2024-09-28T10:44:42Z

This setup

platform = https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32/releases/download/51.03.05/platform-espressif32.zip and
https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32/releases/download/53.03.10-rc1/platform-espressif32.zip

is mixing different source and libs. Result will be unpredictable
Use for latest development Arduino 3.1.0 source code and libs

platform = https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32.git#Arduino/IDF53

ChrGri · 2024-09-28T18:21:21Z

@Jason2866
platform = https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32.git#Arduino/IDF53 same as before, still stall after a few seconds, see attached video

HID_CDC_stall.mp4

ChrGri · 2024-11-29T16:41:03Z

So this issue is known since a few months and hasn't been fixed. Any hints on how I can approach the fix myself?

BR

ChrGri · 2024-12-22T14:43:05Z

I've disabled CDC in the script and connected both USB ports (USB-OTG + USB-UART-bridge via CH343) to the PC.

The serial output stalls randomly even with the CH343 output, see video:
https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/e5fa02f3-e7c1-43ee-9102-a624a98eb231

I'm not sure if this still is a TinyUSB related issue.
BR

Jason2866 · 2024-12-22T15:13:31Z

A small example where the issue happens would be good for bug hunting.
Your project is big and has much code which can generate side effects and / or issues.
There is a low chance that any Arduino developer has the time to do bug searching in your complete project

ChrGri · 2024-12-22T15:38:51Z

Hello @Jason2866, the "small example" is referenced in the first message, see "The steps to reproduce this issue:"

Jason2866 · 2024-12-22T16:43:44Z

@ChrGri Thx, overlooked. Is there a possibility to test when not using Windows? Dont use Windows and afaik most developers here don't use too.

ChrGri · 2024-12-22T17:37:05Z

@Jason2866 I've tried it on Windows 11 and Mac M1. On both machines the serial output (from CH343) stalls after a few cycles. Adding Serial.begin(115200), seems to increase the time until stall.

==============================================================================
Edit: When the serial outputs stalls, one short DTR wiggle is sufficient to wake it up again for a period of time, see video

2.mp4

==============================================================================
Edit 2:
The serial output seems to stall similarly on a regular ESP32 (non S3), when the Serial.begin() isn't called in the setup routine.

ChrGri · 2024-12-23T05:01:42Z

@Jason2866 The UART serial output is caused by a missing Serial.begin(), see above. Unfortunately, this doesn't help in CDC mode. In CDC the output still stalls after a few seconds when HID is activated too.
When HID output is off, CDC serial output runs reliabel.

kbastronomics · 2025-01-16T12:18:24Z

I am experiencing this same issue, not using TinyUSB but using schnoog/Joystick_ESP32S2@^0.9.4 instead.
my build file is very basic using what platformio uses with no external references

Processing lolin_s2_mini_release (platform: espressif32; board: lolin_s2_mini; framework: arduino)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Verbose mode can be enabled via `-v, --verbose` option
CONFIGURATION: https://docs.platformio.org/page/boards/espressif32/lolin_s2_mini.html
PLATFORM: Espressif 32 (6.9.0) > WEMOS LOLIN S2 Mini
HARDWARE: ESP32S2 240MHz, 320KB RAM, 4MB Flash
DEBUG: Current (cmsis-dap) External (cmsis-dap, esp-bridge, esp-prog, iot-bus-jtag, jlink, minimodule, olimex-arm-usb-ocd, olimex-arm-usb-ocd-h, olimex-arm-usb-tiny-h, olimex-jtag-tiny, tumpa)
PACKAGES: 
 - framework-arduinoespressif32 @ 3.20017.0 (2.0.17) 
 - tool-esptoolpy @ 1.40501.0 (4.5.1) 
 - toolchain-riscv32-esp @ 8.4.0+2021r2-patch5 
 - toolchain-xtensa-esp32s2 @ 8.4.0+2021r2-patch5
LDF: Library Dependency Finder -> https://bit.ly/configure-pio-ldf
LDF Modes: Finder ~ chain, Compatibility ~ soft
Found 44 compatible libraries
Scanning dependencies...
Dependency Graph
|-- Adafruit TCA8418 @ 1.0.2
|-- PCA95x5 @ 0.1.3
|-- TM16xx LEDs and Buttons @ 0.6.2404
|-- Adafruit GFX Library @ 1.11.11
|-- Adafruit BusIO @ 1.17.0
|-- arduino-timer @ 3.0.1
|-- Adafruit ADS1X15 @ 2.5.0
|-- Joystick_ESP32S2 @ 0.9.4
|-- ESP32Encoder @ 0.11.7
|-- DCS-BIOS @ 0.3.10
Building in release mode
Retrieving maximum program size .pio\build\lolin_s2_mini_release\firmware.elf
Checking size .pio\build\lolin_s2_mini_release\firmware.elf
Advanced Memory Usage is available via "PlatformIO Home > Project Inspect"
RAM:   [=         ]   8.8% (used 28896 bytes from 327680 bytes)
Flash: [===       ]  25.0% (used 327790 bytes from 1310720 bytes)
============================================================================= [SUCCESS] Took 5.45 seconds =============================================================================

Environment            Status    Duration
---------------------  --------  ------------
lolin_s2_mini_release  SUCCESS   00:00:05.451

my platformio.ini is much simpler

[env:lolin_s2_mini_release]
platform = espressif32
board = lolin_s2_mini
framework = arduino
monitor_port = COM8
monitor_speed = 250000
monitor_echo = on
lib_deps = 
	adafruit/Adafruit TCA8418@^1.0.2
	hideakitai/PCA95x5@^0.1.3
	maxint-rd/TM16xx LEDs and Buttons@^0.6.2404
	adafruit/Adafruit GFX Library@^1.11.10
	adafruit/Adafruit BusIO@^1.14.5
	contrem/arduino-timer@^3.0.1
	adafruit/Adafruit ADS1X15@^2.5.0
	schnoog/Joystick_ESP32S2@^0.9.4
	madhephaestus/ESP32Encoder@^0.11.7
build_flags = 
	-DARDUINO_USB_CDC_ON_BOOT=1

HID works find on it's own, CDC Serial works find on it own.
Then I enable and Serial communications at all withing 10 seconds HID always stops functioning.

only way to get it back is to reboot the device.

My Serial device (output from DCS-BIOS) is a large amount of simulator data at 250K baud.
I have no control over that data.

I was going to try tinyUSB thinking it would be a better solution but since this is happening in more than one packing doing HID devices, I would tend to believe the issue is not Joystick_ESP32S2 nor is it tinyUSB either

kbastronomics · 2025-01-16T23:28:27Z

One thing I just tried was the not send HID messages with every button press but to do it one time in loop()
while this did actually make my Pots run much faster and smoother, i still withing a short time of connecting the CDC port, I loose HID

michal2229 · 2025-01-27T03:44:37Z

I experience the same problem on ESP32-S2 with this code. CDC + HID works for a short time, then it stalls. Disabling CDC makes HID work flawlessly. Tested on Linux.

ChrGri added the Status: Awaiting triage Issue is waiting for triage label Sep 7, 2024

ChrGri mentioned this issue Sep 7, 2024

ESP32 S3 serial and USB HID stall when DTR is activated a second time #9582

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schnoog mentioned this issue Jan 15, 2025

Simultaneous serial and gamepad data schnoog/Joystick_ESP32S2#12

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Jason2866 added Status: Needs investigation We need to do some research before taking next steps on this issue and removed Status: Awaiting triage Issue is waiting for triage labels Mar 13, 2025

schnoog mentioned this issue Mar 14, 2025

Works somewhat but is sluggish and has some errors schnoog/Joystick_ESP32S2#22

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